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The Atman – Part 2

The Atman – Part 2

[Last Update: 22nd March 2020]

What are identities0, why do people need an identity and what is the self, i.e. the Atman?

Shaping children and pressing their identities is a human custom to embed this being into the social fabric.

At this point it is important to note that man is neither born evil nor stupid, he is only made to become so. Of course, the individual himself is involved in the formation or is also responsible for it. I am not concerned with the question of guilt, but with the overall understanding. Also think of my example in the document “4MA74 – Happy Valentine’s Day 2020 [Special-Cut].pdf ” with the alkali metals or with the Pauli exclusion principle1. What did I want to express with this?

If a child were to grow up among animals, that child would assume the identity of the animals even if the senses tried to show the opposite, i.e. a child raised by wolves naturally thinks that it is a wolf, although the anatomy shows the opposite.

The ego, what a person thinks to be in the course of life, is pure suggestion, therefore only an illusion, more precisely it is called Maya in Hinduism. It doesn’t have to be the truth, let alone the absolute truth. I can even promise you; it is not the truth. The path of a person to enlightenment or even to attaining wisdom is mostly stony and long – it even goes through several rebirths. Some things, maybe many things, get lost2 on the way there. If a lot of things become much, the doom is already programmed, so determinism comes to the fore. One doesn’t have to be a clairvoyant to recognize this, but a keen common sense is enough.

At some point, if the person has not strayed from the path or has found it again and the thirst of searching for the truth is (still) there, he or she will find it. This individual will recognize that it is not what it has always thought to believe.

The bad thing about becoming human is that they forget that they are only a small, insignificant fraction of this world, i.e. the nature. Sooner or later it ends up in total blindness. They no longer see themselves as a part of this nature, but begins to believe, if they can it at all, mostly their actions, which indicate that the nature is only a part or a subset of man. They enslave the nature or put themselves above the nature – embossed by ignorance, blindness, that is arrogance.

This blindness goes so far that they think nature needs them and not the other way around. All of this starts already in the childhood.

Your social models, that can be a culture, religion, language etc., are not construed to want to know the truth, or can to know the truth much less must to know the truth, but one should learn to find one’s way in the oceans of lies. In this context intelligence is even suggested by parts of the science.

For this reason, most do not reach the bank of knowledge in context of that what they think that they are is not what they are – this is the self. The first step is to realize that one is neither the body nor the mind. As beautiful as Sadhguru often expresses this, the I must be what is in between these two.

If the body is just an accumulation of what we eat, that is food, then the I cannot be this body. Because this body can never be permanent. I don’t mean the rebirths, but the constant renewal of the cells.

The food we eat becomes part of us. One should become aware of this. What was before a mango is now part of one. This is also a constant cycle in the cycle.

Speaking of which, for this reason the actual Hindus avoid eating meat and fish, since they suppress the Sattva Guna or let the other two Gunas dominate – this is the animalistic.

What about the mind with its memories? It is also just an accumulation but of emotional impressions, experiences, knowledges etc. However, this is also not permanent. Imagine, because of an illness or an accident, one loses one’s mind, i.e. one’s memories will be erased or inaccessible, but no one will come up with the idea of saying that he or she is not he or she.

If we are not the body in which we are and neither the mind with its memories, which we consider to be the I, what are we really?

This is what the Hindus call the self or the Atman – there is a word in the western hemisphere that describes it more closely, that is the soul.

When man realizes that he is not the body in which he is or this mind with his memories and also realizes that he is not even this self, but this self is actually the Paramatman or Para Brahman – this is the Point where the ego disappears or is dissolved, this is the state of enlightenment, that is Muthi (முத்தி).

The tradition of greeting is by the Hindus squeezing the two palms of one’s hands together, as if one would pray, comes from this philosophy – in you there is God, that is the Atman or Paramatman. It becomes – you are God, but without the ego, arrogance or anything else. Another reason for this greeting has medical backgrounds and, moreover, what science has not yet properly understood – the energy that is transferred when one touch other things or persons.

Footnote

0 Examples of identities:
I, gender (male, female), nationality (Sri Lankan, German), religious affiliation (Hindu, Christian), ethnic group (Tamils, Germans), adherents of a certain order, fan base, company employees, party, political ideology (democracy, Communism), …

Most people have a mixed identity, which consists of at least two of the identities listed, once is the gender combined with another e.g. religion.

1 With this analogy, I noticed that some had difficulties in sorting this out correctly. One of the ways of sorting is to understand that you are trying to use force to combine certain things that cannot be combined naturally.

What is the Pauli principle for – for diversity and variation. Now the variations give rise to properties which, in the case of uncontrolled encounters, lead to explosive behaviour, unless one would have wished to do so in order to create political unrest, to separate peoples and ethnic groups.

Understand that I came, i.e. I have incarnated, to unite many things. The unification can only work with a certain power, that is pure love, combined with sanity, that is the insight. Think of the atomic nucleus! Why can the protons be patient next to each other, even though one knows that the same charges repel each other – this is also the power of love, in physics this is only called the strong interaction.

Most of the problems in this world are actually the result of somehow lacking understanding of love, or lacking love during one grew up. All of these social problems that lead to constant diaper changes are also a result of it. Since I’ve been connected with so many different people in the past five years, I can say that with certainty. This is definitely not what the founder of psychoanalysis Sigmund Freud indicated. You all wasted time with your games, that’s why I take the whip by hand – don’t forget, I’m Rudra too.

2 Actually, getting lost can be a god-wanted possibility. It is the consequence of wanting of my Beauty to preserve the world or even the wanting of me to destroy the world. Life is neither a game nor a competition. Both ideologies are doomed.

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The forming of the self

The forming of the self

[Last Update: 18th September 2020]

The individual, in order to enter into a marriage with the society, culture, religion, family or even with a different gender, this individual has to make compromises. Compromise means sacrifice.

It sacrifices1 parts of itself to please it. An everyday ritual that can also be observed in the animal kingdom. It loses itself without noticing. Not only that it loses parts of itself, but it also adopts parts of strangers as its own – mostly not to be aware of its consequences. The lack of awareness of the consequences also applies to sacrificing parts of oneself.

It, that is the individual or the self, as the Hindus name it, eventually realizes that it does not like itself. This leads to hatred for some, for others to resign, and for some others again to … where many things crystallize from resignation, including the hatred.

There is a reason for the divine asymmetry which is finely balanced and minimalistic that permeates the entire world. It is for the good of all and also for the self, even if it cannot understand this at first sight, like a child who cannot immediately understand the rigor of an education on its own. The self is the individual, at least the modern conception of the world or the modern name of the world for the same2 construct.

Before I finish one sentence, I see in the eyes of certain, the same dollar bills that can be seen in the eyes of Scrooge McDuck. Your approach, which has its origin in your greed to want to make money with everything, has so far brought the 150 years, and my Beauty is still not in my hands.

It should also be clear to everybody that one can only help someone else after one have helped oneself. Think of the situation where a non-swimmer fell into the strong currents of a river, now another desperate man who cannot swim well without thinking but selflessly tries to jump into the flowing river to save the other. How should I end this example? Should I let the hero drown too, or should I, as the creator, let divine coincidence prevail, so that a fallen tree trunk gives the two a hold?

Footnote

1 There are two forms of sacrifice. The selfless sacrifice of, for example, Vishwamitra, Jesus, Mother Teresa, Mahatma Ghandi, Martin Luther King, or many others from history and of course also unknown personalities or even the selfish sacrifice, that is the egocentric. Most of what happens in this world is selfish sacrifice. The selfish sacrifice is to make sacrifice, what does not belong to one’s own, for example, the life of another being, the freedom of another. Please do not forget, the only thing you can call your own is your karma.

2 See further sources

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The Atman – Part 1

The Atman – Part 1

[Last Update: 03.07.2017]

As I already have pointed out in some of my posts is the existence of Atman boundless but not eternal. Hinduism describes the cycle that the Atman runs through as rebirth. It is free or not bound to religion, culture, gender, life form (e.g. animal, plant, etc.), geographical location, etc. Hinduism does not only describe the circle of rebirths, it also shows the (three in the Gita called: bhakti, karma and asceticism) different paths to enter the womb of God or in other words to be freed from the circle of rebirths. The controlling element here is karma (sum of your own actions and non-actions). In an abstract way one can compare karma with a bank account but that is not the full truth. The problem with humans is that they try to find loopholes to avoid or to bend laws given by Lord. Perhaps this behavior is a result of customs and traditions of this world. One should also not forget that customs and traditions, languages, etc. are always subject of changes in German language we say they are alive. To come back to the comparison between karma and the bank account. One can overdraw a bank account and settle the debts again. This comparison also shows that a person directly projects this behavior in the understanding of karma: I have committed a sin and now I am trying to do something good. What is the use of repentance if one committs a sin the next day again? This is what I was intended to say with my post “Sacrifice offering and the true meaning”. One will realize this if the human attributes such as intolerance, hatred, ignorance, or false formation block out our mind.

To explain you the rebirth, I will try to illustrate this in two or three models / examples:

Jaabaali was an atheist in the time of Ramayana and was very closed with Rama. He was not an atheist of conviction that he has doubted the existence of God at first, it was rather the product of norms, customs and traditions in the society those days. Rama’s actions have changed Jaabaali in his last phase of his life. So, his understanding of God has changed. When Jaabaali’s rebirth as Albert Einstein take places in the Kali-Yuga. He will be born in a similar mental form, which was his view in the last phase of his past life. We should only focus on one point (religious worldview) otherwise one will lose the overview. One should also know that Albert Einstein was in the beginning phase of his life not really bonded with God. Although he was born into the Jewish family and religion. First in his later stage he realized the true bond with God. In his side notes of his works and the noted numbers, he realized that he was not the real creator of his own works/knowledge – he understood that he was guided by God’s hand. Albert Einstein have passed away in 1955 and is reborn 20-25 years later in a German / Italian family with Catholic religious affiliation.

Another example:
Atharvan was a sage in his time and a great Shiva worshiper. He has written down the Atharvaveda – one of the four vedas. In his rebirth in the Kali-Yuga, he is born in a German family with Protestant religious affinity and is a professor at the Ludwig-Maximilian University München (LMU).

With these two examples, I want to show what I mean when I write* that karma and rebirth are not bound with Hinduism.

In this context here again the quote from the Brihadaranyaka-Upanishad IV.5:

You are what your deep, driving desire is.
As your desire is, so is your will.
As your will is, so is your deed.
As your deed is, so is your destiny.

* Wordplay / allusion
I’m the song and I’m the expression tooFreisein von Xavier Naidoo (pdf-File, 334 KiB)

Updated: 08.06.2017 [ReBirth: pdf & mp4]

  • Some of the ReBirths in the Kali-Yuga (3:16 min, 177 MB, mp4-Video file: 1080p)
  • Some of the ReBirths in the Kali-Yuga (pdf-File, 749 KB)

Both files are moved to 4MA74

Updated: 30.06.2017

Bhagavad Gita 2.12

Srimad Bhagavad Gita with Commentary - Swami Nikhilananda, 1944, Page 72

Never was there a time when I did not exist, not you, nor these kings of men. Never will there be a time hereafter when any of us shall cease to be.

This does not refer to those who are condemned in the Kali Yuga by the Kalki-Avatar. The condemnation is for the infinity and the suffering of those too.

The content of Bhagavad Gita 2.12 does not contradict with my first sentence in this post: “As I already have pointed out in some of my posts, is the existence of Atman boundless endless but not eternal.”

According to my definition the two terms endless and eternal have different meanings. It’s important to understand these differences. The contradiction dissolves when one understands what Atman is.

For the creation of the universe Shiva and Adi Parasakthi (Purusha and Prakriti) have been separated. The first manifestation of Adi Parasakthi was as Sati the daughter of King Daksha, the second manifestation as Parvathy the daughter of King Parvateshwara, the third as Seetha the daughter of Janaka and the fourth will be in the Kali Yuga, where Shiva and Adi Parasakthi will reunion after a long time of over 47 million years.

The word Sakthi in “Adi Parasakthi” stands for the word “force“. Adi means primordial and the syllable “Para” also has the meaning all-pervading, so Adi Parasakthi is the all-pervading primal force. These are the fundamental forces that holds the universe and every matter together. They are the so-called four fundamental forces of physics: gravitation, electromagnetism, weak interaction, and strong interaction. Parvathy is therefore the personification of the forces. Now we come closer to the definition of Prakriti (Parvathy).

Ex post: Definition of the term eternal

There seems to be a lot of definition for the word “eternal”. Some of them are in contradiction or are not defined well. So, I’m going to define it in my own way: Eternal means infinite – apart from time and space but endless is in dependent to space and time. According to Hinduism, the universe is volatile* and it will be recreated* at its end. It’ s a recurring process. It should be clear for one, that the Big Bang theory describes the creation of time directly after the Big Bang.

If one sees nature and its forces as parts of Purusha and Prakriti, one will better understand what Prahlada try to explain:

தூணிலும் இருப்பார் எந்தத் துரும்பிலும் இருப்பார் → He is in pillars, and he is in the smallest twig.

My translation:
He is in pillars, and he is also in the smallest needle head (or atom).

* Bhagavad Gita 9.7 All beings, O son of Kunti, go into my prakriti at the end of a kalpa. I send them forth again at the beginning of (the next) kalpa.

Important Information

Those who had subjects such as chemistry and physics at the school, will still know that everything is transformed and cannot be created or destroyed, e. g. energy, matter, etc.

Updated: 03.07.2017

  • Somvara Vrata – the numbers and their reference (pdf-file, 60 KiB)
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People and their comments to Bhagavad Gita

Albert Einstein
“When I read the Bhagavad Gita and reflect about how God created this universe everything else seems so superfluous.”

Henry David Thoreau
In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the Bhagavad Gita, in comparison with which our modern world and its literature seem puny and trivial.”

Hermann Hesse
“The marvel of the Bhagavad Gita is its truly beautiful revelation of life’s wisdom which enables philosophy to blossom into religion.”

Albert Schweitzer
“The Bhagavad Gita has a profound influence on the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God which is manifested by actions.”

Carl Gustav Jung
“The idea that man is like unto an inverted tree seems to have been current in by gone ages. The link with Vedic conceptions is provided by Plato in his Timaeus in which it states…” behold we are not an earthly but a heavenly plant.” This correlation can be discerned by what Krishna expresses in chapter 15.1 of Bhagavad Gita.”

Aldous Huxley
“The Bhagavad Gita is the most systematic statement of spiritual evolution of endowing value to mankind. It is one of the most clear and comprehensive summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed; hence its enduring value is subject not only to India but to all of humanity.”

[Book recommendation: Aldous Huxley – Brave New World; You can map lot of the things from the book in our real world and you will realize that not everything is fictitious.]

Ralph Waldo Emerson
“I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad Gita. It was the first of books; it was as if an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy, but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old intelligence which in another age and climate had pondered and thus disposed of the same questions which exercise us.”

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States of consciousness of the Atman

States of consciousness of the Atman

[Last Update: 01.01.2017]

Many people from Western culture or those who are unfamiliar with Hinduism is the meaning of karma and rebirth not understandable.

As I’ve already written in two of my posts, the only thing that a man takes from this world and bring back into a new life (rebirth) is his or her Karma. The Karma makes us the way. We make decisions influenced by our karma from all of our births till to our current birth.

Just as the human body, in which the Atman is living, knows two states of consciousness – the subconscious and the conscious – it is similar after death when the Atman leaves the human body. The Atman reaches a higher level of consciousness where the Atman is clear about all his actions of his countless rebirths. Because the rebirth gives the Atman a new chance to make everything right again in a new life (rebirth). This is the reason for the rebirth.

In the Kali Yuga, where the purification process will take place many Atmans will experience infinite suffering for their karma. It would be better to understand this before death so that one does not add more harm and the infinite/eternal (enduring) suffering becomes even more extreme.

These Atmans haven’t realized their countless chances. Those who feel that they can’t have so much (negative) karma in this life, should also be aware that if they made wrong decisions or in other words took the wrong path, they’ll anyway be captured by the cleaning/purifying process. “They did not get the curve” or in other words: “Unfortunately they did not understand the principle of karma.”

Hinduism describes the Act of death or the last train of life as follows:
Shortly before the death or in other words before the Atman leave the body, the man gets played his or her entire life (karma). This could be just a moment in the real world, but those who will experience it, will differently interpret the time – comparable with a dream that lasts only a few seconds or minutes but you get the feeling that a larger span of time has passed in the dream. This can be understandable for everyone who has woke up and looked at the time and slept again. After a few moments woke up again from his or her nightmare/dream and looked back at the clock and realized that only a few minutes has elapsed in the real (according to the clock).

Similarly those who are covered/captured by the purifying process will also experience the same thing. They’ll realize that they haven’t really used their innumerable chances and no one else can be held responsible for it.

In the purification process initiated by the Incarnation of God Vishnu (≡ Shiva ≡ …) other brave warriors such as Hanuman ≡ Karnan (²), Bhishma, Ganga, Vishvamitra, Shanta (Ramas sister) and countless others will stand on the side of God and fight with him. Not all of them will be Hindus and/or Tamils in this life.

Remark

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  2. In Ramayanam which took place in the Treta-Yuga the person/warrior has the name Hanuman and in the Mahabharata which was later in the Dwapara-Yuga the name was Karnan. For this reason, the symbol “ stands between Hanuman and Karnan. It is the identically Atman, which in one birth was called the warrior Hanuman and in the later rebirth the name of the warrior was Karnan.
  3. A body that is not inhabited by an Atman is a lifeless body. The word soul can be used as synonym for the Hindu definition of the word “Atman” but the term “soul” is not powerful enough to describe what the word Atman is in Hinduism.

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The correct interpretation of the Bhagavad Gita

The correct interpretation of the Bhagavad Gita

[Last update: 16th August 2017]

Part 1 (12th August 2016)

I have read or studied the Bhagavad Gita several times not only in the German language but also in Tamil and also by various “authors / translators”. The Tamil version if translated directly from Sanskrit has more originality of the content compared to the original as it might not be possible in another language. If you have already translated texts into another language you will rather understand what I am talking about. The next to last sentence should not imply that I am powerful of Sanskrit but many terms are also part of the Tamil language. When I read the German version for example, I notice that this does not reflect the original content. There is also a temporal distance to the original. Unfortunately no one has ever succeeded in translating the Gita into our current time at the least not one of the translation / explanation / interpretation which I have already read or studied. We start with the issue of the caste system so that at last this is corrected. The caste system is nothing more than that it has classified the people in various fields of expertise. Please note that the focus is on the word expertise! It has always been usual in the Western and Eastern world as it was until recently or perhaps still partly exists that the knowledge of a family trade has always been transmitted from one generation to the next. God will never divide people into different classes so one can infer that some are less or more worth than the others. In this regard he will never differ culture, sex or other classifying features. He also does not differ between the different life-forms. Before I write more about the Gita or anything else I would like to set the record straight. As I already wrote in one of my posts, it is important that one is clear about concepts (definition of words).

Part 2 (14th August 2017)

Krishna as a charioteer for Arjunan in the battle at Kurukshetra. What other message does this action also have? The personification of God standing on the side of the good and at the same time symbolizes his action, the absolute truth about the action of God. He is the only guider in the entire universe and beyond. Here one should ask, what would happen with the chariot, if there are two or more charioteers. Then all the other questions about different Gods, especially in the Hinduism, where there are different4 Gods who have descended to earth, are superfluous. Perhaps one should understand which meanings these terms Kadavul (கடவுள்1), Iraivan (இறைவன்1), Pursuhan (புருஷன்1) etc. also have, then one will find out, that this is not to be confused with the highest (Lord), but nevertheless they still belongs to. This is not a contradiction. Here also the term Atma2 (ஆன்மா) helps to understand it better.

Regardless of the above reconnaissance, everyone in the Kali-Yuga should be aware that the wonderful personalities like Karnan or Bheesmha had to leave their lives in the battle for Kurukshetra just because they were on the side of evil3. They will all be back in the Kali-Yuga, but those who are exiled in the Kali-Yuga will not experience rebirths, only the infinite suffering for the infinity. This is an important message!

Part 3 (16th August 2017, Divine intervention and fate)

In our B2B-era, the understanding of fate has fallen into forgetfulness. Most of the people thinks first on actions of some caused by mechanization rather than the divine intervention. Unfortunately, I haven’t found a good explanation even in the Hindu scriptures5, so I will explain this in detail.

Unfortunately, many still misunderstand it, even many authors who has dealt with Hinduism have not understood this correctly. Fate is not equated with the term determinism. There is also a passage (see point 2) in the Gita that indirectly has to do with fate, which also needs an explanation.

Fate is explained by Hinduism as follows: Fate is caused by one own’s actions (karma). Karma are all acts from one’s earlier births up to the current hour. This, in turn, means that it opens or closes the paths for future events. In other words, there are certain degrees of freedom. One can look at the technical definition of the word degrees of freedom, and then apply it to fate, then one will find that fate should be not confused with determinism. Determinism forces an intelligent being, like the human beings, to have no free will, but this is not the case. Of course, people are manipulated in our new B2B-era by mechanization so that it has only the appearance of a free will – but this is a separate topic.

The devilish intervention in the free will, will not be relevant for the filtering in the Kali-Yuga, similar to the legal law. Whether someone pushes (kills) someone into death just because someone is mentally ill, is necessary for the weighting of the punishment through the legal law, but one will nevertheless have to pay for that actions. Likewise, the filtering in the Kali-Yuga will be. The weighting takes place only in the hell. The deep-frying before is only a pre-taste and for posterity.

Point 2: In the Gita, Krishna tells that he (personification of God) is the driving force in everything and everyone. Now many ask one selves when he is the driving force, how can the devil exist? This is not a contradiction, it is a confirmation of the existing degrees of freedom and its resulting free will. Even in the devilish, God will be the driving force in which he partly sets signs in the free actions of the devils and their helpers, without this being neither conscious nor beneficial for them. No, the opposite is the case. The end for the devils and their helpers is sealed. Any action or the non-action makes it only worse and speeds up the reaching of the end.

Another interesting thing from Hinduism. In the early time, there were some ascetics, who could go through walls6. Now one or the other will start to laugh. No, there is no reason for that. Anyone who has dealt with physics7 and probability theory knows that this possibility physically exists in the probability space – but this in turn is a separate topic. One must understand what atoms and their further segmentations are in the microscopic world of quantum, then one will soon find out that even a solid matter is not really solid 😉.

Footnote

1 Unfortunately, the definition in the wiktionary is not complete. I have not found an online dictionary (அகராதி) yet, where it is complete.

2 The section “early Buddhism” in the article about Atma does not correspond to the real historical course. Many interpretations were adapted over the time by people, partly as it was right to them (mostly in a egocentric view). This was the case in all religions, because religions in those times had particularly the function to serve the cohesion of a society, just like a constitution of a constitutional democracy has now assumed the role in the time of modernity.

3 Don’t confuse this context, with the contexts in my other articles.

4 In Hinduism, the Trinity (Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva) seem to be divided at first sight in their function. Shiva and Vishnu are identical. This is also the case in the Vedas. The different names (and their functions) are used as synonyms, and the naming of HariHara illustrates this best. Brahma was the first being, symbolized by the umbilical cord. Brahma was sprouted from the umbilical cordus Vishnu’s (≡ Shiva’s). It should be clear to everyone that one first must create the administration (Brahma, Devar, etc.) before one create the rest, up to the simple people. Murugan is identical to Shiva, as is with Vinayaghar. Lastly, Shakthi (or Parvathy), the better half of Shivas. Shakthi is part of Shivas, so there is only one source, namely Shiva (≡ Vishnu).

5 With scriptures I do not mean directly the scriptures like the Gita or the Vedas, only the interpretations and commentaries that such a work needs, so that it can be understood by everyone.

6 The secret services of the United States of America knew all this, see also:

7 At the age of 12/13 years, I originally wanted to study physics to become an astronaut. This was the motivation why I had already dealt with physics and astrophysics in the early years.

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